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I went and did a little reading on the new .327 Federal Magnum round. According to Ruger, it's supposed to have more energy than the .38 Special. I like the part about it being able to shoot .32 Shorts, 32 Longs, & .32 Magnum rounds through it besides the .327 Federal Magnum round. I still have my doubts about it having more energy than the .38 Special. There is just not enough mass in the .32 caliber bullet to beat the .38 Special, especially in a short barrel revolver. I donno, I've been wrong before but, it's just physically impossible for it to do that.

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Ahh! Don't be fooled by such terms. I am sure it has more ENERGY, but it probably won't have more stopping power. For example, the 9mm Parabellum load has more energy than the .45 ACP round. However, in testing done by the US Army in head to head tests against pig carcasses, in the early 1900's, they found that the slower 45 auto did more damage than the faster 9mm. In Iraq, the Marines reissued a number of 45's to the troops because they found they needed far more rounds to take out the terrorists. It seems that the filthy savages are so jacked up on opiates that a high speed round like the 9mm will pass right through them and have limited knock down power. The 45's seem to do the job better. Same for the M-4. They retrofitted a number of m-14's with modern parts (synthetic stocks, compensators, etc) because the 5.56 round wasn't hot enough to get to the enemy who were hiding behind concrete walls. the 7.62x51 round doesn't have that problem. I happen to like the .32 but it is really only good for REALLY close use. Plus, the big selling point for the .32 is concealability something a revolver isn't s good at doing as an auto. I think it is cool that you can use a number of different cartridges in one of those revolvers, but for what you would use it for, I would prefer a Kel-Tec or even a Beretta tomcat, although those are really only good for REALLY REALLY close range (like point blank) I'm going to try and find some reviews on it, now that my curiousity is piqued

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Understood Sir. I just don't see the .327 Fed. Mag. doing what a .38 Special or .357 Mag. does at close range hitting center mass. Velocity, yes. Volume, no. I guess I'll just have to wait until I can put hands on a .327 before I make a snap judgement. If you get your hands on one and send a few down range, let me know what it is, hero or hype, will ya?


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wv blue hunter wrote:
Understood Sir. I just don't see the .327 Fed. Mag. doing what a .38 Special or .357 Mag. does at close range hitting center mass. Velocity, yes. Volume, no. I guess I'll just have to wait until I can put hands on a .327 before I make a snap judgement. If you get your hands on one and send a few down range, let me know what it is, hero or hype, will ya?


I'll see if I can't get some reviews on it. Folks around here are pretty traditional when it comes to their calibers. Not sure if I'll see one up close anytime soon.


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Yea, that's me too my friend. I don't figure I'll have any brought in for anything, especially with them being new. Folks will send them back to the Arms company for any problems. I guess I'm just going to have to buy one. A man can never have enough of them you know. Just got to think up a reason that I need to buy another firearm to tell the wife. She swears I've got one of ever kind made in ever caliber offered. Hum, maybe the old "I get a 1 out of 5 chance to win a trip for 2 to Florida if I buy this one certain revolver right now" story will flush with her? Na! She's done got smart to that one. Oh! Maybe if I tell her that there's a special sale, we will get the man hating channel, "Lifetime", for free for the rest of our lives if I buy this one certain revolver right now. Na! She'd kill me with one of my own weapons for getting her hopes up after finding out it's a lie. Got any ideals I can borrow buddy?


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wv blue hunter wrote:
Yea, that's me too my friend. I don't figure I'll have any brought in for anything, especially with them being new. Folks will send them back to the Arms company for any problems. I guess I'm just going to have to buy one. A man can never have enough of them you know. Just got to think up a reason that I need to buy another firearm to tell the wife. She swears I've got one of ever kind made in ever caliber offered. Hum, maybe the old "I get a 1 out of 5 chance to win a trip for 2 to Florida if I buy this one certain revolver right now" story will flush with her? Na! She's done got smart to that one. Oh! Maybe if I tell her that there's a special sale, we will get the man hating channel, "Lifetime", for free for the rest of our lives if I buy this one certain revolver right now. Na! She'd kill me with one of my own weapons for getting her hopes up after finding out it's a lie. Got any ideals I can borrow buddy?


How about "It's an investment and it'll only appreciate in value"


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wv blue hunter wrote:
Yea, that's me too my friend. I don't figure I'll have any brought in for anything, especially with them being new. Folks will send them back to the Arms company for any problems. I guess I'm just going to have to buy one. A man can never have enough of them you know. Just got to think up a reason that I need to buy another firearm to tell the wife. She swears I've got one of ever kind made in ever caliber offered. Hum, maybe the old "I get a 1 out of 5 chance to win a trip for 2 to Florida if I buy this one certain revolver right now" story will flush with her? Na! She's done got smart to that one. Oh! Maybe if I tell her that there's a special sale, we will get the man hating channel, "Lifetime", for free for the rest of our lives if I buy this one certain revolver right now. Na! She'd kill me with one of my own weapons for getting her hopes up after finding out it's a lie. Got any ideals I can borrow buddy?


How about "It's an investment and it'll only appreciate in value"
Yea, I've tried that one before too. She said if that were true, I've got an easy couple million $$$$ here already. My excuses are getting worse or she's getting smarter.


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BTW bubbasbbq, I've gotten a report in about the .327 Fed. Mag. A good friend compared a new .327 Fed. Mag. Charter Arms revolver & a S&W .32 Mag. Revolver. Very little difference in the calibers with the exception of the price of ammo for the .327 Fed. Mag. caliber being way higher than any other .32 caliber ammo. I think he said $28.00 for a box of 50. I think this caliber is going to fall into the hype category. It's best asset is it's a universal round revolver to shoot all the rest of the .32 caliber ammo out of. Think I'll wait on buying one until I get more info.


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$28 for a box of 50? Better than .50 each! The fact that you can shoot multiple types of ammo through the revolver is a good thing and if you wanted a .32 I would certainly Give one serious consideration, especially since you don't have to use the rather expensive ammo. I'd say stick with the .38 or the .380 instead though.


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I think that's pretty high $$$ for ammo myself too. A person that reloads for that caliber could cut that price down for their own use though. As most gun fights with handguns occur between 3 foot to 10 yards, I'll stick to the .357 Mag. & 9MM that I carry. Not saying the .32 caliber wouldn't work at that range, I just feel more comfortable with my CCW in those two calibers.


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Yea, but who wants to reload .32's? I know some people will, and I reload extensively as well, but I do have my limits!


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bubbasbbq wrote:
Yea, but who wants to reload .32's? I know some people will, and I reload extensively as well, but I do have my limits!
That's why I made the choice of the 9MM S&W and the .357 MAGNUM. as my CCW. Because I can buy LEO or Milsurp ammo way cheaper plus, I can find it almost every where. It doesn't cost a lot to practice with the cheap ammo. I only use my reloads for my CCW. I have more faith in them and I know that they are going to hit where I aim at.


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I think a 380 is about as small as you should go for a general purpose CCW. if you want a really really light CCW get the .32 but it should be something like a tomcat that will fit in your pocket. easily. Ruger has a new subcompact called the LCP that comes in .380 that looks really nice.


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Yea bubba I agree. I'm not much for anything under the .38 and .380 caliber rounds. Any thing under those calibers were belly guns. I worked law enforcement for years so I have seen the effects of different caliber weapons used on the human body. I remember a guy once that wasn't on drugs, wasn't drinking or drunk, & took 5 rounds from a .25 caliber auto. He took the pistol from the shooter and tried to beat him to death with it. I guess when he got tired of beat the shooter, he got in his car & drove himself to the hospital. They removed the bullets in him a day or so later & he signed himself out of the hospital the next day & went home. Then I've seen a couple people that took one round from a .22 Magnum & are no longer breathing. The worst I've seen was a direct hit from a 12 GA. shotgun at about 15- 20 foot. Sure didn't have to worry if it done the job. On the other side of the coin though, I did see a guy that was hit in the bread basket with a pumpkin ball (they call them rifle slugs these days) from a 12 GA. shotgun. I would have bet money that he was a goner. He made it though. That one did surprise me I have to admit. Most wounds caused from a high powered rifle were usually very messy.


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My axiom of the smaller the hole, the more critical the shot placement. a .22 or a .25 can get the job done, but you have much less room for error. I would thinkthat a 12 gauge would deliver the worst damage. I've always wanted to develop a self defense/LE round where you have a 3 or a 3 1/2" shell with a rifled slug sitting on top of a handful of 00 buck. I figured that would devlier the most effective round no matter how jacked up the guy is.


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