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which cailber is best for long shots on varmints
.22-250 63%  63%  [ 10 ]
.17 hmr 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
.17 rem 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
.22 magnum 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
.220 swift 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
.222 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
.223 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
.223 wssm 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
.243 19%  19%  [ 3 ]
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i was just wondering what power levels for a scope i should be putting on this firearm aswell as how far out i could humaely kill a groundhog/coyote/fox/deer
does any one think that it could be used for shooting turkey(where legal of course)


any help much appreicated

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A good 3-9x scope should suffice. I like the variable zoom because it is more versitile. As for ranges. it depends. a .223 is a light slug and is easily influenced during flight by wind, twigs, etc. For anything as big as a deer, I would say to limit your shots to 100-200 yds open country, 50-100 in heavy cover. For varmints, I would say if you can see it in your scope, you can hit it. Not sure why would want to use it on turkey, unless you like turkey burgers and feathers. That high energy slug would hit those hard bones and just shatter everything in sight.

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man if you havent had turkey burgers you gotta try em there sweet! also its not a normal .223 its a .223 winchester super short magnum i dunno if that makes much of a diff i kinda figured the same for turkeys tho


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youngmiller wrote:
man if you havent had turkey burgers you gotta try em there sweet! also its not a normal .223 its a .223 winchester super short magnum i dunno if that makes much of a diff i kinda figured the same for turkeys tho


Oh I know what you have. That much velocity will fragment the slug even more than a standard .223, ripping the carcass that much more. especially on exit. Turkeys aren't like mammals. In Birds, the organs are loosely packed. Think of a ping pong ball inside a basketball and you get the idea. Plus, birds have harder bones than mammels which means they shatter more easily.

Personally, Idon't like the WSSM's. After about 400 rounds you will see alot of erosion in the throat of a barrel firing WSSM's . Also you may find accuracy a problem with some of the lighter slugs.


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i would like to know were it is legal to shoot turkeys with a rifle.

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thanks raven didnt no birds where like that nocked off 2 gulls and a crow when i was disking our field its nice to finnally seen what a .17 hmr can do good gun for inside a tractor cab .......also the .223 wssm im shooting 64 grain thinking of handloading 70's tho the gun(.223 wssm) is a browning a-bolt hunter 2(i believe either that or its just a hunter)


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also texas i do believe you can hunt turkeys with a rifle


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Actually the names Bubba's BBQ, but everyone here calls me Bubba. Raven Gunsmith is the name of my shop. :D But you are welcome.

If a little .17 can do the damage it does on a pigeon, what could a big heavy magnum do to a turkey?


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lol ya thats true....how hard will it be for me to find replacement barrels for the .223 wssm ??? would it take a noraml .223 barrel or no ..... i dont think it would because of the pressure diff ive been known to be wrong before tho


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Bubba I have seen what a 22-250 can do to a turkey and it ain't pertty!!!!! A muzzle loader is a much better turkey rifle in my opinion and I have shot a number of turkey with muzzle loaders and still had something recognizable to eat.

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lol ya thats true....how hard will it be for me to find replacement barrels for the .223 wssm ??? would it take a noraml .223 barrel or no ..... i dont think it would because of the pressure diff ive been known to be wrong before tho


I'm sure you can get them from the factory eays enough. it'll just cost you to fit it since neither I nor anyone I know has the reamers for any WSSM cartridges.


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Bubba I have seen what a 22-250 can do to a turkey and it ain't pertty!!!!! A muzzle loader is a much better turkey rifle in my opinion and I have shot a number of turkey with muzzle loaders and still had something recognizable to eat.

Mel


I can only imagine. Just a big pile of feathers, I would think. I think You'd be much better off with heavy low velocity slugs.


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lol i wanna see what itll do to a groundhog ...ive heard that a .22 mag will make a grounfhog jump a foot outa its hole


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no kiddin what size rifles can you use.

and i would shoot them in the gullet with a rifle


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