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 Post subject: Re: OL'Roy dog food
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:08 am 
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Techno wrote:
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feeding raw is perceived as hard. where do you get your parts and pieces. Drive all over, buy from a baloney factory, dumpster dive?

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Wal-Mart....every ingrediant.


One thing that you forgot is the vitamins and minerals. Many dogs have shown to be very deficient in them on a BARF diet. I also wanted to add that meat scraps and other odds and ends are illegal to sell or give out around here. Even from a butcher shop. All they can sell are meat bones and that if from a butcher in the family. VERY illegal!

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 Post subject: Re: OL'Roy dog food
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:54 am 
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Techno wrote:
Gunpowder wrote:
feeding raw is perceived as hard. where do you get your parts and pieces. Drive all over, buy from a baloney factory, dumpster dive?

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Wal-Mart....every ingrediant.


One thing that you forgot is the vitamins and minerals. Many dogs have shown to be very deficient in them on a BARF diet. I also wanted to add that meat scraps and other odds and ends are illegal to sell or give out around here. Even from a butcher shop. All they can sell are meat bones and that if from a butcher in the family. VERY illegal!


Please go read the thread concerning the ingrediants.It will show you that 1 part is buying multi-vitamans that you break in half.Again the ingrediants do not include scraps and other odds and ends.

The multi-vitamins can be purchased at Wal-Mart like everything els in the list.

Here I will make it easy for you....

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So many people complain about the price of kibble today, and that is because it's expensive. Even the "low budget" cheap feeds are getting expensive, and to add insult to injury these feeds are terrible for dogs nutrtionally. Feeding dogs cheap kibble is tantamount to feeding your children the dryest McDonald's French fries for their entire lives. Sooner or later, they will have serious health problems.

The simple fact is, no kibbled diet is as good as feeding a proper raw diet. And even most of the so-called "premium" kibbles have rice, corns, etc. in them ... and then cost over $1.00/lb. Worse, even the WalMart cheapies (i.e., Ol' Roy) are now costing $0.50/lb for what is little more than a bag of dried corns, glutens, soys, etc.

I am offering for your consideration a raw diet that is even cheaper to feed than Ol' Roy, can likewise be obtained at WalMart, but that offers a hundred times better nutrition. I will admit that this diet is not a "premium" RAW diet, but a low budget raw diet for larger kennel situations that trying to keep their costs down, and yet still provide their animals decent nutrition. The big claim that larger kennel operations cite as a reason for not feeding raw is "cost" and "convenience."

Well, feeding raw is always going to be a bit more inconvenient than feeding kibble, there is no way around that, but I have made this formula as convenient as I can (as again you can get everything at WalMart). It is likewise as cost-effective as it can be (less per-lb than even than Ol' Roy). Keep in mind, individual prices may differ, but at my local WalMart, Ol' Roy is now $20.88 for 40 lb (which is $0.52/lb), and the following raw diet I am listing can be put together for only $0.50/lb. Here are the items:


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Food Item.............................Cost Per Meal

Raw Chicken Quarters (8 oz)................$0.290
1 Cup White Rice (8 oz).......................$0.087
Whole Egg (2 oz)................................$0.121
Plain Yogurt (1.2 oz)...........................$0.079
1 Tsp Lard (1/6th oz)..........................$0.013
½ Vitamin Pill (0 oz)............................$0.014

19.2 oz meal........................................ $0.60 = Total Cost


* WalMart offers 10-lb bags of chicken quarters for $5.78, which pans-out to be only about $0.58/lb.
* You can get 20 lb of Matma white rice for $13.12 at WalMart also. Keep in mind that 1/3 cup of rice grains makes a full cup of cooked rice (after you add 2/3-cup of water and heat it). There are 50.5 cups of rice grains in the 20-lb sack, which after adding water make 151.5 cups of rice for $13.12, making each cup of rice cost only $0.087 (just under nine cents a cup).
* You can also get a carton of 60 (5-dozen) eggs for $7.24 (which comes to $0.97/lb), and each egg weighs about 2 oz (or about 12.1 cents per egg).
* You can buy a quart of "Great Value" plain yogurt for about $1.57 each (which is about $0.79/lb), and it has been my experience that you can scoop out about 20 heaping tablespoons per container, which is about 7.9 cents per serving.
* You can also get a bottle of 300 Equate Multi-Vitamin pills for $8.42. Since a little dog doesn’t need the full horse pill, you can cut each vitamin in half, which means you get 600 multi-vitamins for just over eight bucks (or $0.014/pill). The best way to feed the half-vitamin pill is to stuff it in a teaspoon of lard.
* You can get a 4-lb tub of Armour Lard for $4.82, and since 4 lb = 64 oz, and since 1 tsp = 1/6th of an ounce, this means you get 384 teaspoon servings for less than five bucks, or $0.013 per serving (just over one cent).

This means the above meal would cost 29 cents + 8.7 cents + 12.1 cents + 7.9 cents + 1.3 cents + 1.4 cents which would equal a total cost of 60.4 cents for 19.2 oz of feed, which translates to just over $0.030/ounce—or just over $0.50/lb—and it’s still a better meal compared to just about any commercial kibble.


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That’s right, you can shop at WalMart and feed your dogs a low budget raw diet for less than what it costs to feed Ol’ Roy, the lousiest feed on the market, and yet it is better for your dogs than virtually any high-end kibble. You don't need to go to butchers, slaughterhouses, or any other inconvenient spot for many folks ... you can get all of these things right at WalMart.

Just purchase a crock pot for the rice (also at WalMart), in a size commensurate with the number of dogs you have (1 cup of rice per dog), and you will be saving money AND feeding your dogs better. There is simply no excuse to feed kibble anymore with today's prices.

Again, I do admit there are raw diets better than this (no rice, etc); but rice provides a good filler to keep the weight on, and my point was to provide a LOW BUDGET ("anyone can get it") raw diet for larger kennel situations.

All you need is a meat cleaver, the crock pot, and a cutting board. Lay the number of eggs, vitamins, chicken pieces out there ... and stack a buncha bowls ... and you can feed a yard of dogs better than any kibble ... for LESS MONEY than any kibble.

Good luck,

Jack




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:41 am 
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My thought is... Whos got time to gather all this stuff daily? I like going to my dog food bag.. getting a scoop out and feeding my hound..

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Thanks Techno.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:32 pm 
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My thought is... Whos got time to gather all this stuff daily? I like going to my dog food bag.. getting a scoop out and feeding my hound..


Thats the only kicker is the time it takes to prepare...then again I don't have as many chores as yourself...but I try and keep it that way so most of my time is devoted to the dogs.Some say I have no life but the dogs are my life :lol: :lol:

Your the first person to give a good reason why it doesn't work for you.


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DO YOU FEED THE CHICKEN WITH THE BONES IN? I ALWAYS HEARD THAT YOU SHOULDN'T GIVE DOGS CHICKEN BONES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY SPLINTER

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:57 pm 
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DO YOU FEED THE CHICKEN WITH THE BONES IN? I ALWAYS HEARD THAT YOU SHOULDN'T GIVE DOGS CHICKEN BONES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY SPLINTER



Yes,the bones are left intact.Cooking the bones will make them splinter.Uncooked bones will not splinter.

This as well is covered in the RAW thread.Take some time to read the whole post.As Buckshot asks people to use the search feature,I ask for folks to read all of the posts and maybe your qustion would be answered.


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So if you are using rice for filler I could just throw the dog a chicken quarter a day and keep ol roy in the auto feeder for the "weight on filler" instead of all that boiling of the rice and stuff. I'm not so concerned with the cost of dog food but I am interested in better nutrition and less poop in the back yard. my dogs love the dry (I get whatever) no matter what I put in the feeder and they are definitely not starvin but I do notice they eat grass now n then tho. I'm also out of town alot so auto feeders are a must but when I'm home I would like to try the raw chicken. Do you feed a whole quarter a day?


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