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ive noticed in AKC shows and the other shows on tv they have a horrid looking b&t with ears down to his shoulders and a horrable build espically in the back end.... they reccognize the black & tan as a breed and i believe ive seen a redbone in the shows also but never any blueticks, english, walkers or plotts. also i see on AKC if you want to register your coon hound it says "foundation stock"... do AKC or any of the other kennel clubs (other than ukc and pkc) recognize the other breeds as actual breeds or not?

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FSS® breeds are not eligible for AKC registration.

AKC site list the following coonhound breeds as FSS (remember there is a difference in AKC B&T's and non-AKC B&T's - matter of fact, they want to change the name of all non-AKC B&T's to American Black and Tan Trail and Tree Hound)

Black and Tans
Blueticks
English
Treeing Walkers

So if you register your non-AKC B&T with AKC, they are not fully registered and accepted by AKC. They will be FSS registered as with the othe breeds in the list above.

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other than the questionable build whats the difference between the AKC B&Ts and say UKC or "non-AKC" B&Ts?


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AKC dogs are bred for looks - whatever is popular at the time will influence how the dogs look (see what happened to the hind end of the German Sheperds). UKC dogs are bred for both their looks (favoring conformation that indicates they can perform rather than what is trendy) and their abilities to do whatever the particular breed is known for.

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If you go over to the UKC forum I've got a thread going called AKC vs UKC to get some discussion goin about it. We own an AKC show bloodline PET. WE have had two different hinting b and ts... one a UKC and One an AKC hint bloodlines (foster dog)... so I was asking this very thing... It has gotten a fe good replies I think, if you can get past my wordiness ;)
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so do AKC or any of the other kennel clubs other than ukc and pkc recognize the other breeds as actual breeds or what?


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The American Kennel Club (AKC) has been registering the six Coonhound breeds for years, initially under Foundation Stock Service (FSS). An AKC/FSS Coonhound is eligible to compete in any AKC Coonhound Event; Water Race, Field Trial, Bench Show and Nite Hunt. For a breed to move from FSS to “Miscellaneous Class” there must be a breed (parent) club established, with officers, board of directors, bylaws, etc. Once the Miscellaneous Class requirements are met, moving into Full AKC Registration is just a matter of time and taking the proper steps. More info on the three stages: http://www.akc.org/press_center/facts_stats.cfm?page=8

Currently the Black & Tan breed is in Full AKC Registration status, the Plott and Redbone breeds are in Miscellaneous Class and the Bluetick, English and Treeing Walker are in FSS status. Breed (parent) clubs have been established or in the process and Full AKC Registration of all six Coonhound breeds will be accomplished over the next year or two. For example; the Southeastern Treeing Walker Association is the breed (parent) club for the AKC Treeing Walker.

Once Full AKC Registration has been achieved all six Coonhound breeds can be shown at the Eukanuba National and Westminster if someone is interested in doing so. In the meantime the FSS Coonhounds are eligible to compete in any AKC Coonhound Event. Changes of the breed for better or worse is largely dependent on the breed club’s decisions.

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For Me... Hounds=UKC.... Cocker Spaniel's (I breed them&sell them)(don't like them much though) = AKC....

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Akc is weird on their registry thats why I want register my dogs in the akc.

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